does anyone understand this ‘firmware’?

won’t canon need to make some hardware additions to the 5d to get the options the 7d currently have?

because if it is just ‘firmware’ and it’s already on the 7d, why havent they placed a download site for 5d to get what is apparently just a firmware???

i really don’t want a video look. in 2007, i spent 2500cad(!!) on a canon gl2 and now i loathe the camera.

last year, i worked with a camera man who brought his sony xdcam ex1. i really liked the finished image.

i’m only considering 5d or 7d because i can’t afford xdcam ex. but i’m verrry reluctant to be as stupid and as green as spending money as i did once. then i was just out of grad school and still with ta earnings saved.

now i’m a financially strapped artist who really needs a camera at hand.

all the info at there! a lot being showing-off (a ‘guy’ thing????). but it makes it very difficult to decide.

http://www.canon5dtips.com/2009/08/what-is-the-best-shutter-speed-for-movie-mode/

Getting a film look isnt just about getting 24p, it is more about shallow DoF. 24p is just the number people have decided to film with because it gave a better feel. But there are a lot of movies shot at other framerate.

If you shoot indoor, the 5D wins hand down vs the 7D because of the 1.6x crop. Indoor = wide angle and low light and that is where the 5D rules over the 7D.

When people look a the stuff I shoot with my 5D @ 30p, they dont care about the framerate. What they are looking at is the gorgeous image, interesting camera placement and colors. Get these things right and no one will care about 24 or 30p.
Dont forget that the internet is a big echo chamber. A lot of people talk about 24p as the holy grail while they cant even tell the difference between 24 and 30!
Regarding lenses, you cant really work with a 50mm1.8 for film because it does not have a manual focus ring. For a cheaper alternative, look at my post about Zeiss 50mm vs Canon 1.4. I think it will make you happy

is the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II really that different from the 50mm f1.4 USM?
kindly advice. my shots will be narrative types, mostly indoors.
my budget tight.

also, another question:
i am thinking of a dslr camera but need a filmic look! if the 5dmarkII will look filmic with 24p filmware coming in june2010, i’m ready to go for it. But various sites say 7d. is the 24p capability the only thing that makes an image ‘filmic’??

Thanks alot

As to the Canon 50/1.2 issue: that is a fast but expensive lens. Some users love it and some find the performance per cost ratio not worth it. What a lot of folks do is enter the world of “alternative lenses.” You can adopt wonderful manual lenses from old systems made by Zeiss, Pentax, Olympus, Minolta and others. Some lenses are easy to adapt to the Canon EF mount. All you need is a cheap adapter usually sourced from eBay. Other lenses require surgery, milling, drilling and time. For some this effort is worth it. One of the “rock star” lenses in this arena is the old manual focus 58mm/1.2 Rokkor made by Minolta in the 1970′s. It is simply a fantastic lens. Other options are the Canon FD lenses but they can be more of a hassle to adapt. To put this simply: there are manual lenses that have better performance and “character” for the money than the modern Canon EF offerings. Some still shooters know this. Movie shooters who use the 5D are also discovering this fact as auto focus is less important. Having a real aperture ring is a plus as well. The new Canon firmware has addressed this though.

The nice thing about Canon bodies is that the distance from the focal plane to the lens flange is greater than all the other cameras; so there is room for adaptors etc. Not as easy with the Nikon. Check the Fred Miranda alternative lens forum for more: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/board/55 Be warned though: once you enter the world of “alt lenses” you might never have the same regard for your modern lenses you once had…

Max